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Old 11-30-2012 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue24
First, I did not say it was the unions business how to buy these jets, I said how do you "force" the company to buy these jets. Big difference.

What this deal does is allows DAL to not have to pull down flying if V Oz does, it codifies what areas on the map, not just OZ-Mainland US are included in growth, it backstops the pull back of DAL in the market to five and worst case four frequencies a week.

If you realize the crew inefficiency of four weekly flights you will also realize the crews involved at this level of flying with our CDA and trip rigs.

It does not give us a day one increase in pilot bock hrs, but unlike the previous language which was did not guarantee any growth to us, this one does after one more daily rt is added by a very very very small carrier. 14-14 day one would be awesome, duh! The reality is that this market that this jv was signed for has been generally stable for the last few years wrt to frequencies between carriers.

As for your last comment. Go to a MEC meeting attend what you can, and see the work your reps do. I have been to a few over the years, and though the results are not always to my side of an issue, the debate is well thought out by all parties.

This JV passed 19-0. Ask your rep why he voted yes.
Rogue, if that's the case, if there is that much stability in the market, how much chance is there that demand will be there for more than 21 departures? Seems to me, the company asked themselves what is the most this market will ever support, added a pad just to be sure we would never need to add Delta flying, and then got the pilots to buy off on it.

If catering to the business traveler and offering a "premium product" is DAL's strategy, how will that work out when less and less of that product is flown by DAL pilots using DAL airplanes? I'm starting to think that is investor talk only, and that management actually doesn't believe in our product that much at all.