Originally Posted by
tom14cat14
You are all quick to say this will help the industry by saying we will not take pay cuts any more. But how will 2000 pilots out on the street help raise pay. We will only be adding 2000 pilots to other crappy companies at year 1 pay. That will sure show management. Have a full seniority reset vs taking pay cuts.
Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
Here's how it will happen. History almost always repeats itself. The Pinnacle pilots will sign a concessionary TA. Pinnacle will shrink. Pinnacle will eventually dissolve. Signing the TA will keep Pinnacle in business for 5-10 years. Standing your ground will end Pinnacle in 1-2 years. Again, the Pinnacle pilots are not going to stand their ground. There are pilots at Pinnacle that never will upgrade. There are captains at Pinnacle that will be downgraded and never upgrade again.
Comair, a group of airline pilots that held a 2 month strike, started giving concessions when threatened like Pinnacle is being threatened. Hell, Pinnacle is full of Gulfstream PFTers. The Comair pilots even tried to offer another concessionary TA a few months ago when they realized the end was near. The Pinnacle pilots will accept a concessionary TA of some sorts. The first offer might be turned down, but a concessionary TA will pass.
Originally Posted by
sigep_nm
My fellow 9e pilots,
Five years down the road will anyone remember the 2400 Pinnacle pilots and their final stand against the industry? It is doubtful but I feel that it is coming and I think it is just.
If anyone is curious about how this plays out in real time, go take a peek at the Southern thread in the cargo section. The really disgusting part of this is how the Unions are involved with this fear mongering. Once upon a time, a union had our best interests in heart.
For those who think otherwise, a no vote will be noticed. Perhaps not in the manner of getting cited in history books but in the manner that management will take notice that the tactics they have been using are becoming less effective. The best example of this is the fact that at least two regionals are offering signing bonuses. If pilots were not balking at the idea of making 30-40k the next 5-10 years, these signing bonuses would not be offered.
Nothing is going to change immediately but it is a step in the right direction. Like it has been said, the plan is already in place and the passage of a TA will not significantly impact that course. Once again I reference the Southern situation. I think that this should be seen as an opportunity to make a strong statement and for once make the company put their money where their mouth is. These chances don't come along often.