I think as a pilot group we have acted as true "bullies". We thump our chest in the good times, but are the very first to cave in the bad, when the chips are down.

As another previously posted, vote yes to a pay raise, and no for a payout.

If we would have followed his advice 10 years ago, we would never ended up where we are today.

Look what APA did in BK. They voted no for a voluntary pay cut. They may end up with little or no pay cut, and maybe a pay raise. IN BANKRUPTCY!!!!!!!