Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Its interesting that the MEC passed the code share on the first vote with 100 percent voting for it. Most complaining don't even seem to understand it. Delta has one marginal route to Australia that we have been unable so far to make profitable year round. The route has been on the chopping block for a long time. The current agreement on code shares would allow the company to link with VB and not consult us in any way. They could have up to 28 flights a week verses our 7 flights. The newly signed agreement limits VB to 21 flights a week. If they exceed that Delta's share of the flying goes up. To get 28 flights a week on VB Delta would have to have 14 flights. Overall a much better deal. The other thing is the amount of passengers this will funnel into Domestic US flights. Something that this forum never even considers on codeshares yet is very important.
Virgin does have some A380's on order. They are there to replace 747's. They also have 787's on order however they will replace larger A340's. They have no real fleet growth planned and are losing money. Branson is rumored to be getting tired of his airline empire sucking cash out of the rest of his business activities and wants out. A deal to purchase VA might also allow for the shutdown or sale of Virgin America. They have extremely low pay rates and our depressing yields in many key transcon markets.
SYD has never been on the chopping block... that is straight from our heads of marketing. I'll let you ponder that.
The fact is there is room to grow Australian flights with very large type aircraft and we are letting V-Australia take that. As far as them feeding our domestic flights- this is going to be another significant case where codeshare pax are placed on other codeshare airlines without ever touching DL metal. The VAaussie flights are going to places where AS has the primary presence, not DL.
Now, as far as V-Atlantic- They have 38 aircraft with an average age of just over 6 years. 13 744s, 6 A343s, and 19 A346's.
They have 6 380s on order and 15 787-9 (note: not the 8) on order. That is only partial replacement, and the 787-9 is of like capacity and greater haul ability to the 343.
I don't see V-Atlantic as growing, though- I see this as a JAL type deal to get
Skyteam access to LHR. The best news is this gets Skyteam a jump on LHR access over UA (Star).