Originally Posted by
Coach67
Yeah ... he does! But the other 1000 don't. That's not Board of Directors ... that's Dept Directors which includes all of the Chief pilots on up in flight ops, it incudes the Hotel Dept manager on up, it includes the Flight Attendent managers, etc!
This little gem is just another way to trample upon the pilots. When will those pesky pilots ever learn that some people are just more equal than others. Now get back at the end of the line and we'll tell you when you get to talk!
How are you guys going to feel when some Manager fresh out of MBA school with one year with the Company gets put in front of your 25 years plus of service?
Besides that point ... how many other little rat T#&@$ are in there that we DIDN'T find and we weren't told about?
I'm going to feel SOOOO much better that the Chief Pilot is DH'ing in back in coach with me on a L-CAL airplane (it's "offline", you know) while I'm traveling back to DEN for training after my next bump, as the 757's slip away with nothing to replace them on the L-UAL side.
I've got a friend who is voting NO (loudly) because he is peeved that pay now starts at GPS movement of the aircraft, not brake release. When I pointed out to him that wasn't accurate, he told me that 5 people had told him that was the case, and ALL were voting no for that reason. I finally showed him in the contract that wasn't the case. Of course, I didn't get a chance to correct the other 5 people. My point is, if you dig, you can find little things that will incite people into anger and direct them to point no. That's what this thread is about. It's all about emotion. Which is what 90% of the NO voters are voting on. And you contend that 90% of the YES voters are voting out of fear. My hope is that everyone attends a roadshow, reads the Q and A, etc. etc. and then makes an informed business decision based on what's in the TA and evaluates the potential consequences of a YES vote, and the potential consequences of a NO vote. Just yesterday I read that "none of the good things in this TA even go into effect until 2014." Wrong. LOA26 very clearly spells out an implementation schedule, and the Q and A answers several questions to this effect, but this NO voter didn't even bother to read ANY of that. He was loud NO vote before the TA was even announced. In my opinion, that's just being dumb. The problem is, he stated this as a FACT, not as his opinion, so several hundred other pilots that read the thread and ALSO haven't bothered to do some research now head off telling their fellow pilots that "None of the good stuff even goes into effect until 2014!!" Then ALPA has to put out a communique correcting this blatantly false rumor, which sends the NO voters into a tizzy about ALPA selling the TA.
No, I don't like the fact that some flight manager might get a better pass travel deal than I do. But I see that as 1 small tree in a VERY big forest.
For the record, I personally see this TA as a B-, and the downside risk as a D.