Sounds like a "NO" salesjob to me. I'm sorry but, your vice-chairman lost me at, "I started as a new-hire at CAL in 2005". Here's the thing.... as a 15 year UAL F/O, he and I are at opposite ends of Farmer Fred's whipsaw. I certainly can't blame him one bit if he does not want an ISL with the 'other' United any time soon. He represents the junior CAL guys well in that respect. Bottom line....This TA gets voted down by the pilots of Continental Airlines or gets voted in by the pilots of United Airlines. We'll find out soon enough.