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Old 12-11-2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Actually, I'd love to see the math. I even think this very exchange has already occured. If memory serves, sailing corrected the numbers.

I think we had about 300 A's, and up to 585 B's on the ER alone ~ 885 total
We had about, what, 50 in each seat on the 777? ~ 985 total
We had ~ 80 in each seat on the 73N ~ 1145 total
We had the same on the M88 ~ 1305 total

Today we have about 1,400 as far as I know. We lost the 777, added the A320, and the 765. Seems to me my math must be slightly off, because the difference would be bigger. than just 95 seats pre vs. post merger. I'm sure we gained airplanes. Problem is, we gained more senior pilots. I don't think anyone would argue that New York post-merger wasn't more senior than pre-merger.

What really enrages me about slow's comments is their gratuitous nature. I tend to think of myself as fairly reasonable. I slid back about 15% relative seniority in category since the merger, and even though I have recaptured 13%, the flying is so poor that my QOL is far less attractive than 4 years ago. I try to let that go. Most guys I fly with try to put a neutral or positive spin on it, so we're not making each other miserable.

If I read slow correctly, though, we're just a bunch of ingrates.
NDAs separate the representatives from those they represent. It gives them more in common with mgmt.

I have no other info on Virgin than anyone else (not in the know). However, it has had to be in the works for some time. I read in the most recent DALPA email that they are waiting for more information from management in order to formulate the unions' plan...I don't believe that, does anyone else?

Possibly, like Check, I am waiting for the negotiators notepad that gives some bizarre lopsided benefit to Virgin, but calls it some kind of a "proud" win for DAL pilots.

It has been a fairly long time since we DAL pilots have had anything I would consider a big win, but I will, with everyone else, withhold judgement until the ink is dry.

Sadly, I have come to expect very little. I guess I am happy to have a job, that's something. It would be nice to know, beyond any doubt, that DALPA was a little more rottweiler-like in its protection of the interests of Delta pilots.

I agree, RA is a very solid CEO and his team has done great things for the corporation. That has absolutely nothing to do with my perspective on what DALPA has done for the Delta pilots.