I grabbed this info off flight aware just because I was curious. Now I admit this is only one or two days in mid December and does not reflect a years worth of operations.

So fwiw...



Now let's pretend for a moment the numbers are not only right but indicative of the overall situation. To me it makes me not like JVs because of what I see there with us and AF in JFK and ATL. Even though I know we make some flying up in ORD or PIT in the like.

For the VA JV, I can see what they're doing. But it's the JV with AF that makes me worried that's where we'll head to especially since we might not have many token cities because of LHR slot controls.

I don't know, just my two cents.