yeah confrence call wasn't much but here is the scoop.

attrition is high. they need to higher as much as they can for the forseeable. they will be upgrading apprx 40 capts a month. pay will be 150% for time picked up out of opentime.

upgrade is a hard 3000tt,, no deals, which is good. he said they are trying to grow the pinnacle side of flying with larger jets.