touché, Vito... I should qualify my previous statement by saying there were elements of it that were sarcastic for effect, but my real intent was to say well, you're preaching to the choir for sure- but as someone who has been on the tip of the spear with the "finest products" our good ol defense contractors have to offer, I'd rather just go the China GCI radar way with tons of simpler equipment, which would employ more kick ass blue collar Americans that are not working now then the F35, which is engineering heavy and manufacturing jobs (relatively) light comparatively. The F35's fiasco of things like "oops, we didn't realize it would need 10 million lines of code, and we haven't written half of it yet but don't worry- give us more money and we'll get right on that and by the way, here is your first jet- enjoy!" just makes me think we shouldn't be supporting such sophomoric handling of our national treasure.