Originally Posted by
JamesNoBrakes
Overspeeding flaps is just as prevalent in cessna as it is in any other plane.
I was giving a checkride in a light twin once and I cleared the applicant for an approach a bit on the high side on purpose. It's a realistic scenario and you have recognize it and do something, ask for lower earlier, tell them you can't comply, etc. Besides, I know the area and I know the approach controllers don't give you the approaches any lower anyways. She barely made it work out, faster than profile though and trying to descend as fast as possible at all times. I gave her a mouthful about putting the gear down if you need to. Students are sometimes programmed to "not put the landing gear for speedbrakes", and that's great and I agree with it most of the time, but if you NEED TO PUT THE GEAR DOWN for speedbrakes, then DO IT. Classic "do what you need to do". It's hard to get people to perform at that level though. You give a slightly abnormal situation and everything goes to hell because they can't modify their usual profile for the situation.
I am all about using the gear for speedbrakes... I fly a 421 with an RSTOL kit, that's all I got.