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Old 12-16-2012 | 12:16 PM
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tkhayes90
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Dude,

Mil LV guys don't get recalled. They tell the company when they are returning and are not affected by loa 25.

I'm on the cal side right now and loa 25 gives the company relief from contractual language, takes about $7500 out of my pay, and could possibly hurt every UAL pilot durning SLI arbitration.


Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal
I need some help with this one if you can.

If you are currently a furloughed UAL pilot that does not have a job, how is it possible to go anywhere other than the bottom of the list? Not a smartarse question.... I can understand if you got bypassed or if you are out on military leave and they recalled someone junior to you. But, the way I have seen these things go down historically is the union negotiates on behalf of those members who are currently employed and paying dues.

The flip side deserves a thought.... If ALPA promised the furloughed pilots something it would be doing so at the expense of those who are currently employed and who have not been furloughed.

I am just trying to understand this.

Regardless of you are a one time or two time furloughee, I don't understand why, or how ALPA could negotiate on your behalf without violating its duty of fair representation to those who are currently on the seniority list and who are currently employed.

I get it that you are furloughed. And, I also know it stinks bad. I just don't understand why you think you should be in a different position, seniority wise, than you currently are. Naturally, those out on MLLV, who would have been recalled would be in a different situation (I think). Probably those out on LTD, or similar circumstance for that matter.
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