Originally Posted by
JustAMushroom
Try to think for a second before you speak (or type). Don't just regurgitate crap you've heard others say. Germany is way more expensive and by some measurements less productive than the US. France and England too. Yet German most products and companies are successful. The airbus too.
Many factors go into this decision, including the legal environment, and skilled work force supply. And for now the US is competitive in those arenas.
And unions built this country and its middle class. Why you paint them all with a broad brush is beyond me. I'm no Kool Aid drinker but in the in 1970 CEO to average employee pay was 40:1. Today is 200:1. Isn't that more of an issue? Crappy run companies?
Originally Posted by
xjtguy
As mentioned, Toyota has been building trucks in the U.S.A. for years. Other Japanese makes have as well. Honda, Nissan, etc.
When is the last time you heard of Toyota/Nissan turning out inferior/unreliable products? Especially those made in the U.S.
The fact is that the assembly of an automobile is 15% or less of the jobs required to put that car in the showroom. The domestics employ more of us even when they assemble the car in Mexico or Canada. Why? The real question is where are all these functions performed? Engineering, styling, product planning, powertrain validation, testing, accounting, marketing, support, legal, purchasing, etc... We loose out when ever someone decides to buy an automobile assembled by the visitors. It amuses me that you think that this minor assembly somehow benefits the local population when compared to American companies such as Ford or GMC. Keep in mind those profits from import cars go overseas where they are taxed to benifit a foreign population. Cessna and Boing are all outsourcing products because it is cheaper. However, I hope my original statement is incorrect. I would love to see Americans job creation, but I just don't think it will happen with the MRJ.
JustaMushroom, insult me all you want but I would like to keep this conversation civil. I agree with you to an extent; Labor unions did help build America. On the other hand, American labor is not what it used to be, especially when the majority of the American public feel entitled to everything. This has and will lead to outsourcing in an attempt to find cheaper and more efficient labor.