Originally Posted by
STR8NLVL
This has nothing to do with harming the legacy F9 pilots and everything to do with preserving the IBT's legal right to represent those pilots for all matters involving pay and work rules.
Sooo, you will withdraw the lawsuit if the Commercial Agreement excludes "pay and work rules"? LOA 67 is not illegal, it was ratified prior to the representation election. If LOA 67 is illegal, logic would dictate that LOA's 68, 69, and 70 are also illegal. You do know that we signed agreements AFTER LOA 67, don't you? There is nothing in LOA 67, or the later LOA's that infringed upon the IBT's right to "represent" the Frontier pilots. Unfortunately, you didn't like the content of LOA 67 and its potential ramifications that it could have on your windfall, so you sued under the guise of "legal right to represent". The Commercial Agreement says NOTHING about pay and work rules. The CA is a return on investment agreement. We made an investment, and established an agreement to recoup a return on our investment. Nothing more, and nothing less. I think everyone might be surprised by the Magistrates final decision, as it very likely will not touch LOA 67 while making a small change to the CA. We will see what happens.
Originally Posted by
sizzlechest
Nobody signed a pre-nup so we are one. Since the SLI is not changed with ownership, I don't care where F9 goes. the list will still remain and the craft and class will still remain. The LOA67 lawsuit will have an effect on lots of things in addition to all the competition from other LCCs. The IBT is defending the process that protects jobs. Whatever the outcome is falls on the skills of management running a business, not the pilots. if your job is jeopardized it is due to the decisions of management, not the IBT. The lawsuit is about the law as it pertains to collective bargaining.
The IBT is protecting jobs? Whose job, yours or mine?
Keep telling yourself that the lawsuit is about the law. You sound like a lot of folks during the SLI process. On one hand you wanted nothing to do with the demise of Midwest (because that acquisition turned out poorly) but you wanted all the credit in the world for "saving" Frontier (because that acquisition provided you with a better job opportunity than you currently have).
Predictable and pathetic.
Finally, if you do not succeed in destroying my career with your lawsuit, I am very much looking forward to proving you wrong about the "list will still remain and the craft and class will still remain."
Craft and classes are created by transactions, the same types of transactions that create new craft and classes. You guys act like a representation dispute has never occurred before the IBT prevailed at Frontier. This is going to be so much fun, if we survive.