Originally Posted by
nwa757
You guys are terrible. Let's dismount from the high horse and open up our closed minds and look at the facts.
1) We vote to outsource flying
2) It's ok because we get a pay raise

3) Our passengers travel on Pinnacle/Compass/Skywest and 7+ other
outsourced carriers and thats ok, if my pay goes up
4) Butttt....... It's not ok if they are a Delta pilot.
5) Half of these guys are getting put on the street due to a manufactured bankruptcy (by us)
6) Mainline pilots are taking nice big pay raises (we should) while guys at the bottom on poverty level wages are taking pay cuts, all while flying in the same system.
Getting off the high horse works pretty well for unity. Who are we to think we are so much better off than another pilot who flies the same passengers on the same tickets.

My gripe with flow throughs is merely the fact that they patronize an overworked, underpaid, and overall under appreciated pilot group.
Furthermore, while a flow through will create opportunities for some, it will undoubtedly destroy opportunities for others.
It's like out last TA all over again, a management team is attempting to extract as much negotiationing capital as possible from things they plan on doing already.
In the end of the day it's a numbers game, when you get your time and when the next career door opens for you. A senior captain once told me we are always one bad CEO away from bankruptcy.
Every company has that 5% of pilots we all know should probably not be there, and that includes both DAL and PNCL.
Hope that doesn't sound too high-horsey, and I wish the best for all the pilots at PNCL and would love to see some new guys come in.
(And I could careless where they come from as long as they easy to work with and didn't pay for their job)