Originally Posted by
Airhoss
UNLESS you are a tribal member you're lily white buttocks had better be pretty careful trying to pull the native American card. Call the Cherokee tribal council and see if you qualify, they've recently changed their standards and you honkies that are like 1/84th Cherokee no longer make the cut. I think I read that you have to be at least 1/4 or maybe 1/8th proven Cherokee blood to qualify for tribal membership.
Also even at UAL where "they only hire minorities"
about 8% of the pilots are of minority status. Which if you are able to do the math in your head, means that 92% of the pilots there were not hired due to minority quota issues.
So most of this I didn't get hired because I'm a poo white boy stuff is total baloney. In my class at UAL we had 21 guys no women and one minority who also happened to be an F-16 guard guy that was extremely qualified. Which if you look at the stats is a pretty typical new hire mix at most airlines.
I agree with much of this post but disagree with the minority hiring comments. My disagreement is based on my recollection of United's hiring practices back in the late eighties/early nineties.
There was a company called FAPA (Future Airline Professionals of America) that sent out a monthly magazine and at the end of the magazine it would list FAPA members who had been hired. It would give their name, the airline they had gone to work for, as well as their experience in terms of hours, ratings, aircraft flown, etc. You'd see something like "Steve Canyon: 2,250 total 2,250 multi-engine, 2,250 jet, 2,100 PIC, F-15, T-38, T-37/ Delta (or American, etc)." But you'd also see "Juanita Gomez: 800 total, 0 multi-engine, 0 jet, 600 PIC, C-172, C-150/ United."
Honestly the difference in qualifications and experience between those FAPA members going to United versus those who went to Alaska, American, Delta, Northwest, Pan Am, TWA, US Air, etc. was amazing.
I'm former military and I can't recall a single pilot at the base I was at who was hired by United in the year or so before I got out. Everybody got hired... but they went elsewhere. I know it changed after that because I have several former military buddies at United, but it was so one sided when I was applying I didn't even bother sending an application to United.
For those thinking of "fabricating a minority card" I'd be
very careful. Other carriers are likely similar but Delta has a pretty comprehensive background check done on the pilots they hire. If they find you've lied on your application, your days as a Delta employee will be few.
Happy New Year everybody!