Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
Has anyone else heard the furlough word thrown around here recently? I've heard it twice now in the last week.
I doubt it. But I have a sneaking suspicion that if we hadn't been in the midst of a merger the company might have furloughed in 08-09. Especially if they knew how long this would last.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Furlough rumors always come up at this time of year. I'll take the "wait and see" approach and am building the furlough fund.
Several balls are in the air:
+ 2013's economy likely to be beat Fox News' predictions
+ Possibility of used airplanes and arrival of used renewal jets
+ Contract 2012's Section 1 language
- We are overstaffed
- Company shows no signs of interest in fixing the deficit in our Air France / KLM agreement
- ALPA shows little interest in pushing the matter (and in fairness is limited by the measurement window from taking substantial action)
- ALPA is allowing other pilot groups to cut deals with Delta management without our knowledge or involvement
- The period of "constructive engagement" seems to be over, at least from management's viewpoint. We were left out of the room on Virgin and Pinnacle. That's around $3 billion all in. Extrapolating from that, there would be no reason for management to give ALPA bad news, until it was contractually required. Things like sick calls and disability claims increase (at most airlines) during periods of furlough and labor unrest. Management does not like sick calls, so might as well maintain the happy talk as long as possible (and hopefully forever).
you're depressing me by pointing out what ALPA is doing right now.
I think if I could summarize our economy, it's a kin to fracking in ND: "I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing until someone stops me." Hence the stagnation and fear yet people keep chugging along because what else can you do? Other than go on permanent disability.
Originally Posted by
johnso29
Ok, first of all there are around 8 757's that may be parked. No one has said a word about 320's, but I could see some of the older ones being parked. But only if Airbus doesn't get the airframe life extended. Second, who has said a single word about B717's being delayed? Financially and economically, we are better off then 2008/2009, & we didn't furlough then.
Please step off of the negative rumor go round, before you make yourself sick.
The older 320s were originally mentioned along with the 756s as airplanes the 739 would replace. But I've never seen a number thrown anywhere on how many would go.
As to the 717s being delayed, that was a rumor from a few months back and it was on here. But we haven't really heard anything more sense, anyone have updates on that?