That's another reason I try not to go completely bonkers every time I don't know something: sometimes it's right there, and I was too stupid or lazy to find it.

I think George is also pretty even-keeled, and I find him to be extremely well versed on this topic (so much so that I usually just wait to read from him about this). So I assume he's missing some numbers still.

I also try a really outlandish thing sometimes: I check with my rep(s). Last I checked, the JV numbers were in compliance, and trending in the right direction. He expected more info in the spring.