Moak wasn't the only fish in the tank. But you're not changing your point of view. By the way, the DAL pwa was not up for re-negotiation on July 1, 2010.

The larger point is that being wholly owned does not magically work out positively for 9e simply because someone can point to one example of a situation where an ex-wholly owned company is currently (today only) doing alright. To completely ignore the history behind such a statement only does a disservice to people trying to decide what their future holds. This is not the same circumstance, not even close.