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Old 01-04-2013 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
None, however in posting his numbers he failed to post the number of Alaska passengers that fly international on Delta. It changes the numbers dramatically.
Sailing;

This is not directed at you, but your post evokes an element of fundamentalism in me.

Metrics, statistics, numbers; we can twist them in many ways to make them work for the benefit of our own arguement. The old "lies, damn lies and statistics" arguement.

Outsourcing; it may be good for the corporation, and in SOME extrapolation that makes it good for the employee. However, we are finite time period employees who's interests are to maximize personal gain for our finite lives. Outsourcing will NEVER be good for us personally unless it is for a defined finite time period as a bridge to INSOURCING.

Alaska, in this case, is outsourced large RJ feed (but on solid - mid - DAL seniority equipment). The metrics support that. When the AK codeshare is defended, some valid metrics are used, but there is always the non-metric emotional "west coast Alaska brand recognition" mantra too.

When a passenger can buy a DAL ticket from Sydney to an east coast market and none of that trip will be flown by DAL jets with DAL pilots - THAT IS BAD - Fundamentally - for DAL pilots.

When outsourced lift receives preferential (ground support) treatment and the best gates at a DAL station - THAT IS BAD for DAL pilots (and DAL).

Why or how is this concept defended? by pilots? by the union?

There HAS GOT TO BE A LIMIT OR WE ARE DONE. (voice slightly raised).

I don't see that "we" (the union) are reigning this in. To use an analogy: Scope is a farmers field. The farmer has a big field, but in his own interest, he wants a bigger field. Sharecroppers are using some of his field - To do their work, the sharecroppers are using increasingly more efficient tractors - In some cases, more efficient than the farmers tractors. The farmer, out of the goodness of his heart, also lends the sharecroppers some of his tools - which they do not maintain.

Some of the sharecroppers make enough to buy their part of the farmers field from him. He thinks it is okay to sell some of his field to the sharecroppers. Eventually, the farmer only has enough field to have a garden and he has to go to work in town as a clerk.

morning rant over.

Edit: Some of my concerns are addressed in the AAG union email, but I still don't think castor oil is medicine.

Last edited by scambo1; 01-04-2013 at 04:37 AM.