Originally Posted by gloopy

I've been a thorn in the side of many schedulers, particularly on this issue. And your scenario doesn't make sense. If they give you a 5 hour call out immediately from rest, that's fine, but when did you know about it? If you chose not to check your schedule on your 24 hour FAR rest where you have no obligation to the company whatsoever, then you didn't know about it until you were forced to check your schedule at the end of that rest. That means those 5 hours in between can't be considered as lookback rest for that day's assignment. In other words, you have a 5 hour shorter duty day because that time is included in your duty day per the FAR's.

Or, if, as you say, you are truly on long call, then the only way for that to happen is for you to check your schedule the minute you leave FAR rest, see nothing on your line, and then go to long call, which is 12 hours or 10 for SC. In that case there would be no 5 hour call out.

Now as pilots we are an inquisitive bunch, and obsess over few things more than our schedules. We simply "have to know" so we in most cases freely chose to schedule check during an FAR rest, so most of the time this issue of legality resolves itself. But we don't have to, and the company can't make us otherwise that is an FAR violation of FAR rest and would require a new 24 hours of FAR rest from the moment of any "required" schedule check. Find me one scheduler that thinks that makes me their "favorite" and I will buy you a case of beer.

Regardless of the 24 hour FAR rest issue though, there is a dangerous line of legality some are walking WRT green slipping a report while on long call under 9 hours. While 9 to 11:59 prior is a legitimate and legal GS, under 9, especially under 8, is begging for an FAR violation as you can't use time spent on long call as retroactive look back rest. That is a dirty little secret no one wants to address but it stays under the radar because its very hard to track and prove, for now. But its illegal nonetheless.