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Old 01-04-2013 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled
This is very hard to believe and not likely.

Here's how it works. Yes, maybe you did not receive a "monetary" salary from ALPA. But what you do typically receive is non-monetary benefits. ALPA virtually reimburses everyones cell phone. Even if only 10% of their cell phone time is used regarding union issues, ALPA pays 100% of the bill.

That's minor, but this is major. You get bought off for a trip to deal with union work. Then you can double dip the system flying trips on your days off. Essentially you can get 75 hours of union pay, and another 50 hours of pay from trips. 125 hours a month easy money. On your trips your gone, but on your Union days, I find it hard to believe your not working full force and calling it quits early, because on paper, you don't have any days off.

Not to mention the ALPA credit card that gets passed around for meals, drinks, which in the end is frequently used in bars downtown, after hours, to discuss "union business."


ALPA is just as much to blame as Management is. Pilots have been sitting around with MONTHS off work waiting to get into a training event. This unproductivity causes other pilots to fly trips at 150% and even 200%. So for one trip, a pilot gets double pay, while another pilot is on a 3 month break from work. That adds up to TRIPLE pay for ONE trip.

What solutions did ALPA bring to Management to undue the cluster****? Well, ALPA sat on their A$$ watching the airline become paralyzed to the Union inefficiencies.

Yep, you know this is true......but go ahead and deny it. Proclaim to the world how amazing ALPA is. Muster up your words, think it through, and phone a friend to get answers on how to prove that ALPA is perfect.
Ouch... Eagerly waiting a response from any 9E ALPA memebr.
Pretty sure that's accurate of the legacy 9E MEC hence why the distrust comes from many of the folks there.

The current folks in place have not taken advantage of the system in the same way. There are guys doing crewroom sits on days off, fielding phone calls on holidays, and answering angry emails from pilots blaming them for the situation they're in, sounds like a great gig.

If you think the free booze and cell phone is worth the above hassle plus commuting across the country to nerd out with other pilots you need a new social life.
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