Originally Posted by
mooney
correct.....but if they win Powerball they could buy a CL-65 and legally just jump in the left seat with a fresh AMEL ticketed buddy in the right seat and just blast off......or convince a naive corporate dept that they were in fact PIC. Back in '05 or so the MEM FSDO started yanking the CL-65 type ratings of some pinnacle captains that couldn't pass IOE for this very reason.
It's not an upgrade program, it is a PIC type. Many airlines give PIC types to their FO's during initial. Many here, including you, are confusing the issue. A PIC type (or SIC type for that matter) is not the end all be all, don't forget 14 CFR 121.434:
"No certificate holder may use a person nor may any person serve as a required crewmember of an airplane unless the person has satisfactorily completed, on that type airplane and in that crewmember position, the operating experience, operating cycles, and the line operating flight time for consolidation of knowledge and skills, required by this section..."
Sure, the type is on the ticket, but without completing the company's upgrade program, the FO is still an FO, just with a PIC type.
The FAA who removes the PIC type of an upgrade applicant who completes the type ride but not OE does this not to prevent him or her from renting or buying a CRJ, as you say, but because he or she DID NOT complete the course. This is the same logic as an individual who went to Higher Power for the B737 type (with no time in type) to snag a PIC job with it. Ain't gonna happen. The logbook is the key.
Yeah sure, a CRJ PIC type looks great on the back, but without the PIC time in the book it is only a "placeholder."