Originally Posted by R57 relay

WOW, miracles can happen. I completely agree with this.

Now this I don't know about:

"Now lets face it, anything that usapa comes up with will be a far cry from what the arbitrator ruled thus HARM."

I have had some lengthy discussion with a west friend over this. Unions alter CBAs all the time and sometimes certain groups come out on the short end of the stick. I don't think that automatically means harm. What if we'd never formed USAPA, stayed in ALPA and over 5 years the pilot group failed to ratify a contract because it wasn't good enough to make up for the Nicolau award? If ALPA then changed the Nic in some way would they automatically be guilty of DFR violation? I don't think so, but don't know in this situation. I will say that I think that if USAPA continues down the same path our former leaders did there is a really good chance they would lose DFR II.