Listen Tony, im not on here playing games, trying to "get a rise out of people" as you put it, im just telling you what happened. The cliff notes are very simple: we said we'd prefer to keep line bidding, you said you prefer flightline. We said ok, we'll do some research and get back to you with a compromise. We spend hundreds of hours researching different bidding systems and concluded that flightline is not acceptable for our pilots. We offered Smartpref as a compromise. You concluded (based on very little research using no work rules) that Smartpref was also unacceptable for your group in addition to our line bidding (which you also did zero research on...in fact, you never even looked at it). We said ok, please provide us with another alternative. We gave you one when you said no to line bidding so please give us one since we are saying no to flightline. You said you will not accept any other system. Then the company comes out and says flightline has actually increased costs from line bidding and they are also interested in an alternative. They begin working with us to negotiate 70+ seat rates. Are we married to Smartpref? NO. Are we married to line bidding? No but we do like it. All we ask is for you the present one system that is acceptable to your pilot group other than flightline. The position of the 5% of our pilots who post on the crackpipe has NEVER been the position of the MEC. So please stop referring to such posts as our past position. There, did I miss anything? Flame on man, flame on.