Originally Posted by
Nevets
The XJT pilots on these boards may have been saying no pbs or we will vote no. The MEC has been open minded from the get go. Don't confuse the two.
Your MEC wants to reprogram smartpref so that its now prefbid. Of course they can't do that. Its apples and oranges on how the two work. It was disingenuous for the MEC to ask for that or they are just oblivious otherwise. Smartpref has proven to work with our phase 2 bidding.
You are saying it was disingenuous to ask Smart Pref to reprogram so that it could handle CDO's? What about providing vacation conflicts? What about providing an award analysis to ensure seniority was respected?
Smart Pref has not been fully proven - the pool of pilots and pairings your are currently running could be done by a any competent computer user and an excel spread sheet. Ramp it up to parallel a full bid for one of your bases and then we can see if it actually works.
The XJT MEC did not hold the line on anything dealing with this PBS issue. In fact, they provided ideas to get past this impass that didn't have a defined outcome one way or the other. The ASA MEC shot every one of them down because it didn't make sure it had an outcome of flight line for everyone. Their ultimatum led DIRECTLY to where we are now. It has NOTHING to do with the XJT MEC.
The ASA MEC is backing a proven system that receives very favorable reviews from the pilot groups who use it. What you are asking them to do is take a concession and they are unwilling.
If the blastmail sent out is bashing, then you guys need to get some thicker skin. It was just a letter relaying the facts. I'm sorry that the truth is equal to bashing the ASA MEC.
So, if you keep shouting out a lie eventually it will come true?
One party is being reasonable and the other one isn't. Make an educated, guess, if you can, on which one it is and that will give you the answer as to why we find ourselves in the current cluster.
One party publicly mudslinging is reasonable?
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
I can't believe I'm even reading this. For two years, you guys have thumbed your noses at every single proposal management or L-ASA made. You have bragged how you will shut it down.
I just looked at the ALPA website and it shows that the MECs have agreed on all the sections of the contract. So I don't know what you are talking about. The only thing not agreed to is the PBS system. We are in this predicament only because your MEC refuses to listen to anything other than flight line. So management thinks they found away around your MEC. This has nothing to do with the XJT MEC. Personally, I'm not even against the ASA MEC being in these negotiations with some caveats. I just want all you guys to understand that this is the direct result of your MEC and management's counter to their ultimatum. We will both end up worse for it.
Again, this could have been resolved a year ago but there were so many sticking points where your MEC took extra time to protect your interests. Now you are crying foul when the ASA MEC is protecting the interest of their pilot group. A bit hypocritical?