Originally Posted by
80ktsClamp
The bids have hardly been largely positive... heck, I haven't had any positive movement in ATL since 2008!
I never would have guessed that on my 6 year anniversary coming up I'll be more junior than I was on my first anniversary.
You can't say you weren't warned.
We gave up hundreds of jobs in this last contract. Maybe 1000 jobs. Maybe more.
We agreed to years of stagnation in exchange for a modest pay bump.
Raising the ALV. Making July and August into 30 day months. Running reserves to ALV +15. More and bigger regional jets. More codeshares and joint ventures. Etc. etc. etc. All of that killed any advancement for a long time to come.
I'm sure sailingfun will be along shortly to tell us all is well but the facts speak for themselves. Our list is shrinking and we are mostly going backwards.
Here was your warning ---
APC L&G post #97988 from May 6, 2012 right after the first Negotiator Notepad came out telling us we were giving "productivity" concessions in Contract 2012:
Originally Posted by
Check Essential
Just opened my e-mail.
I am stunned!! Appalled!! This Negotiator Notepad is unbelievable. I can't imagine why they would put this out.
Are we back in bankruptcy? This is all increases in pilot productivity with nothing good attached to it but trivialities.
We've just lost maybe what? a thousand pilots with this disaster. More?
Raise the ALV? Lose jobs. Make July and August into 30 day months to pack that ALV into? Lose jobs. Bump the reserves to ALV+15? Lose jobs. Let reserves sell their X days for more guarantee? Lose jobs.
This is freaking horrible! If this stuff makes it into the contract we will not see another positive AE for a long long time. The 100 hour month *****s among us will love this contract. Makes up for the loss of trip parking and then some.
I will repeat -- I am stunned!
What the hell is Scrappy thinking putting this out? Could it be a cry for help? Is he warning us that things are going badly? The good things in it are trivial and infrequent. We can now call in sick for a toothache? Yippee!!
I suppose I will eat my words if there is a 50% pay raise attached but for now --- WOW. We are getting our butts kicked.
There better be some VERY serious coins coming along with all these work rule concessions.
Somebody tell me why I shouldn't panic. Please.
Did I read this wrong? Its all concessions to my mind. That can't be right.
When people filled out the survey was "work longer hours" the number 1 vote getter??
I'm just shocked at this. Sorry. Time for some single malt.