Originally Posted by
Wasatch Phantom
I again point to the historical perspective...
Look at Eastern, Pan Am, TWA, Western, UsAir, UAL, Delta, NWA. They all took significant pay cuts. The only pilot group I can recall (off the top of my head) that said "no" was American's APA last fall, and they subsequently voted in concessions.
One truism: Pilots talk tough in pilot lounges, they talk tough in the cockpit, they talk tough in hotel vans (and they talk really tough on Internet forums!) but they vote in the privacy of their homes. They look at their mortgage payments, car payments, etc as well as their wives and children and think "I don't like this, but we (I) can get by, and it's better than unemployment". Then they vote "yes".
I was blown away when 85% of the voting Pinnacle pilots voted for their recent concessions knowing that (IIRC) roughly 2/3 will get furloughed. And those were (the) "already underpaid regional pilots" you spoke of.
Is it "fair"? Absolutely not, but "fairness" doesn't matter.
But here's another interesting issue. Regional carriers are having a harder time finding applicants. People considering a career in aviation are seeing the low wages, lousy work rules and sub-optimal quality of life of junior pilots at the regional carriers and deciding that perhaps a career in a different line of work is more appealing. Additionally, some experienced pilots are taking their skill sets overseas for rapid (instant) upgrade and significantly more money.
What happens in a few years if this rumored "pilot shortage" materializes? The regional airlines have agreements with major airlines that they are contractually obligated to fulfill yet they don't have the staffing.
All true, but your second-to-last paragraph is the key point...
Shortage or not, the Sky-Gods are dead...there's no fat left, and precious little meat...nothing left to cut but bone. Airlines (regionals or otherwise) CANNOT pay pilots any less or they won't have any pilots. The only reason people put up with FO pay now is because they are working towards CA pay and/or TPIC to move on. Take away those opportunities and student pilots will dry up (well they already have, but it will get much worse)
Inflation marches on...less than $70K is getting quite painful for a real adult with spouse/kids/responsibilities/hobbies.
The only way a regional could get away with a significant cut right now is if they a very deep bench (ie PCL furloughs) or if majors start hiring gang-busters and it looks like a new-hire could move up and out in 3-5 years.