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Old 01-29-2013 | 03:20 PM
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thor2j
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
1) That isn't an apples-to-apples comparison. You wouldn't say the same if you were merging with Skywest (yes I know that's and extreme example)

2) Because that isn't ALPA merger policy. The lowest active pilot has almost 14 years of service. He also is still likely to be able to hold wide body CAP, which WONT happen if all the CAL pilots who are younger than him hired in the last 10 years are placed ahead of him.

So the only way to "fix" this is to make sure that he is senior according to his longevity (Notice I didn't say DOH I just said that the policy that will be used considers that.

Also, the list is skewed because of the parking of the 737's right before the merger. (Arbitrator may or may not care)

I and every other pilot totally understand the complexities of the differences of the fleets and situations, but you can't just pick one data point like someone's relative seniority or how many years the junior Capt is (NEITHER or which are in ALPA merger policy).

Guess what, the bottom pilot will be "toward the bottom" but whether that's 99%, 90%, 80% is going to depend on how the arbitrator sees it.

What if the bottom 20% of CAL pilots all end up as widebody capts and also have 25 year careers as captains still, even though they are at the bottom of the list? That's entirely possible because at UAL we are all old, most of us close to needing a cane or wheelchair to get to the gate, so we will all be gone very quickly (some not as quick as others). Plus since only 7 of us are under 40 and I know there are many on the CAL side under 40, and that has to be considered.
Once again dreaming about 1 factor with no predetermined weight and banking and barking all about it. No way in h$ll they're ever going to go by straight longevity. Somebody 98%, dont care how long hes been her , is going ahead of somebody 60%. Please be realistic.

Yes not apples to apples. A dinosaur airline that had no real airplane orders, most planes made around wwII (along with the FA), cooked the books for the merger, and was on the verge of a big fire sale. Not apples to apples.
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