You know what I actually see a lot, doors closed, ramp ready... Flight deck door still open.

But you know I was in bwi the other day and they have a new rule of no shutting the door til 3 min prior. So we waited til 3 prior to shut the door but it took 2 min to move the jetway and get everyone back into position. So if I call and they say hold the push I'll call you back, we are late. But we could've been out five minutes ago.

Btw, if they know when the airplane is moving why aren't we using that for the out time anyways?