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Old 02-12-2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
The point was lost on over 60% of the pilot group. Not everyone has SWA buds they can rely on for factual information. So, how accurate was the data in the C2012 contract comparison provided by our own union? Intentionally misleading and covering up the truths that I think you are giving too many credit for awareness of.
My issue with what was put out by our union is that; "by the end of the contract you will make what they make," (paraphrased) is (only half) true...So they (the DALPA sales team) stopped right there...They compared hourly rate to hourly rate.

As most here know, at SWA, (established) pay rates are only a part of the story. I am no expert on all the SWA pay rules. (Apparently, from a previous post, I am no expert on DAL pay rules either.)

If you compare W-2s, head to head, SWA pilots can make an a$$load more than we can.

I don't personally believe it makes a person an outlier or two standard deviations to the left or right to expect our collective bargaining agent to tell us the whole truth. It is not my desire to find fault, but I find it personally insulting to be lied to.

My own assessment is that the lies (or half truths) flow in order to further an agenda which, to me, seems counter to the true betterment of the DAL pilots. This is, in my viewpoint, true of the (perceived) lack of adherance to the contract surveys, the 717 won't come unless..., SWA pay, statements like "they aren't in our competitive set", statements like "outsourcing is good for DAL pilots", etc.

It seems as if DAL management has plenty of investable capital - or ties to get it. Trainer, VA, 76 seaters, etc. They just don't seem willing to invest it in Delta Air Lines directly unless they get a super duper deal...Okay, I get that.

The next big litmus test will be JV compliance. My prediction is...

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