Originally Posted by oldmako

But it was bizarre since before the leather jackets showed up the universal claim was "I don't want to go into a bar looking like a pilot", because of the old London Fog Flasher coats. Yet now, there are mess of guys in bars wearing black leather jackets with either epaulet flaps, grommet holes or a velcro patch. Or better yet, UAL wings.

This was years ago. Hopefully his dorkitude has subsided somewhat.