Originally Posted by
Roadkill
LOL...
Well, you two are too hard for me to categorize, I have to take each of your posts on it's merits

We probably have 40% congruence of thought. Well, 20% for SailorJerry heh.
SailorJerry I just can't decide on... at first I thought he was right in there with slowplay and sailing, but sometimes he posts fairly radical positions and sounds like a 10-year stagnated 2001 hire furloughee SHOULD sound who had even an ounce of healthy skepticism.
I never feel Johnso29 is trying to push some agenda or talking points, but is just enthusiastic about some things I am a bit more cynical on. I'm about as optimistic as they come on Delta really, but all my "data analysis" flags are raised when I see certain numbers thrown around that I know are exactly what I'd be pushing if I were the guy trying to throw folks off the scent when they got too close to an ugly truth.
I think somewhere there is a nefarious guy with an evil agenda of trying to sideline critical thinking, who is like "Hey Evil Brethren, I have some more GREAT numbers we've calculated that are SURE to draw attention away from where we don't want it. If we use the inverse of how the numbers are usually expressed they sound really low! I'll pass them along to our Enthusiastic Dupe, johnso29, to slip the info out there in the stream hey? These nums are so tempting he's sure to be all over them within days!"
It's like Satan and his minions slipping bad info to a really honest and enthusiastic Priest, who spreads the bad word all unbeknownst to himself, in his fervor to Spread the Good Word

Or the Patriotic Intel Guy who THINKS he's passing info to Israel, but has actually been turned by the Russians and is doing the exact opposite of what he thinks he is. Heh. Maybe a bit overboard, but I do get a chuckle with this image every time I see johnso jumping on some data that I myself think is bogus. The nice thing about johnso is that he doesn't get so worked up that it gets insulting, so it usually ends up just a difference of opinion that folks may be willing to consider, since no one flat out called them a dou che.
It won't let me post another smiley, so here's a "LOL" to keep it light.
In general, I'm an optimistic person. There are days where I feel pessimistic and perhaps feel we should have done better here or there. But then I talk to pilots from other airlines and realize that they gripe about the same things we do. At my gym this past week I was chatting with another regular who is a SWA pilot. Things are slow over there right now too. He also told me many CAs there are telling the junior FOs that they should bail for DAL or UAL!!!
Anyway, the cynicism tends to put me in a bad mood. And since I fly very little on reserve I'm home a lot. If I don't counteract cynicism with my own optimism, then that cynicism spreads to my home life(I know, it shouldn't. It really shouldn't) & makes my wife unhappy. So really, it's a defense mechanism to protect me from an angry wife!
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Gentlemen, this has nothing to do with who is or who isn't optimistic about our airline. We all hope for the best. This is a debate on exactly what will make our families futures the brightest while not killing our golden goose. To be lumped in with the slowplay/sailingfun/alfaromeo group doesn't mean you're too optimistic about Delta. To many of us, it means you hold our bargaining agent in the most favorable possible light...no matter what. Even when that national agent does something as egregious as the Pinnacle deal. When I see you instantly go into the "defend ALPA mode", it makes me just do the face palm.
Carl
Carl,
You and I really don't agree on anything ALPA related. And while we likely never will agree, I do appreciate the way you present your debates. You tend not to insult, & I appreciate that. I have nothing against debates and the sharing of differing views, so long as they're presented in a constructive and respectful manner.
FYI, I was unhappy with the Pinnacle deal. I wrote my Rep regarding it. I haven't defended that deal. I don't like the precedent that it could set.