Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

A lot of guys feel powerless, have zero confidence their union will fix anything and yet soldier on hoping for a better alternative to come along. On time/completion performance may or may not suffer.

Then as you say, we are right back in contract negotiations again. The company will say they are on the verge of ordering some wide bodies (RA spotted in Toulouse)...the only way they can pull it off economically is trading in more 50's for some mainlines sized RJ's (outsourced to the regionals). ALPA sells the HE11 out of hit and here we go again.....wash, rinse, repeat. The career we call airline pilot stagnates another decade (preventing some from ever upgrading) unless we change our bargaining agent. Forget the idea of changing the fortress we call ALPA. Most have given up hope on that as ALPA continues to flaunt their power and become even more impervious to change.

Guys already in the left seat have less heartburn (except for Carl ) and just go for the cash. Can't really blame them....it's human nature. Anyone who is an FO that buys off on the fervent sales pitch continues to shoot him/herself in the foot. This will become even more apparent as the full extent of the fire sale we just had kicks in. I have to laugh every time I read the weekly updates with not one word of hiring (like it's a dirty word now). Quite a switch from what we were hearing leading up to C2012. And please don't tell me its due to the economy changing (it has actually gotten better) or more military guys coming back than planned. As someone said earlier those stats just don't add up.