Originally Posted by
The Cavalier
ALV+15 is going to prove to be a costly QOL concession not to mention the hiring it postponed. Anyone coming from a regional knows it will prove to be a miserable existence for a reserve. Just because they haven't been able to schedule that way in the past doesn't mean they won't. It's a slow slide to regional work rules.
Guys,
ALV + 15 is a negative for the Pilot group. The question is how big a negative? I guess I am a contrarian on this issue because I don't think it will be that bad. Here are my reasons:
Most will never see ALV +15. Guys are done above the ALV unless they want to fly more. For every unlucky guy that gets nailed with the 16 hour trip at ALV-1 another will get the 11 hour trip at ALV-10.
So basically a guy has just as much of a chance to be done at ALV+1 as ALV +15. Lets just assume the average guy that is forced to fly over ALV will end up around ALV + 7.5 (law of averages).
ALV + 15 only helps toward the months end. As I have said before the constraints for reserves are usually Holidays, Weekends, and IROP events. ALV + 15 does nothing for these for at least the first three weeks of the months.
So if the company tries to significantly cut back on reserves assigned there will be less reserves for the weekends, holidays, and IROPs. This will result in more white-slips, green-slips, or cancellations.
Don't get me wrong - there will be a few guys who get hosed by ALV + 15 and will probably end up with ALV + 14:55 and get ridden hard and put away wet, so to speak. But that happens to guys randomly every summer. Maybe a few more guys will get abused, hell probably a few more guys, but for the reasons I listed above I don't think it will significantly affect the majority of guys on reserve.
I have been on and off reserve for 13+ years and this is how I see it. I am interested in hearing the opinions of the guys who think the ALV +15 will really kill us. Not just "we will all be abused on reserve" but specifically how it will go down and how ALV + 15 will contribute to more that a few guys getting abused.
Finally, you can argue that even one guy getting abused by ALV + 15 is one guy too many. This is a different argument and one that I don't necessarily disagree with, but that is a whole different issue - I want to know how the ALV + 15 issue will be as overwhelmingly negative for the whole Pilot group as some on here seem to think.
Scoop