Originally Posted by
Starscream
''Opportunity'' and ''eligible'' were terms used in Letter 3/Supp W. The rights of pilots who held AA seniority numbers were never disputed by AA mgmt, hence they're flowing. There's no mention of AA mgmt disputing or objecting to the future rights of those Eagle pilots who'd comprise 35% of future AA newhire classes (i.e. the 'protected' AE pilots), even under bankruptcy. It was never mentioned under any 'term sheet.'
"Opportunity" was, but I don't recall the term "eligible". I don't have that contractual supplement handy though, so I may be wrong. The eligibility was completing IOE and meeting "CJ captain" status, but not used in that term. It was a minimal point anyway as the other issues are more questionable.
L3/SW was a contractual supplement with its own preamble, definitions and duration whereas this is simply a grievance resolution. Grievances can be wiped out along with contracts in Chapter 11. I don't know what the "other" agreement states, so it's difficult to know how it might impact this agreement. Eagle pilots leadership is awash in malfeasance and has hideously failed their pilots, so I'm not sure if either or both of these agreements have been executed and ALPA has dropped their grievance. Although AMR has CURRENTLY not overtly indicated any interest in altering this agreement, what the old management did may not be something new management is interested in, just like the present paint scheme and brand and the new management just got here.
Originally Posted by
Starscream
One thing I agree staunchly on...........that whole thing is indeed hardly worth the paper it is written on. It would take a damn long time for a pilot hired in 2011 to transfer to AA under that agreement. Any such pilot would likely have 3,000+ pilots hired off the street ahead of him/her between now and then. That ain't so hot.
Agreed. As a practical benefit, it's weak. But, its future may be in question altogether depending on the whims of new management that did not negotiate this agreement and may not want the burden. The agreement between AMR and Eagle and ALPA that is unknown may provide more insight that offers an escape clause under certain circumstances and Chapter 11 with a management change has to be at the top of the list of opportunity to do that.