Miserable working conditions?? You talk as if there was a rainstorm in the flightdeck everytime you went up. Literally! As if there was some sort of harry fat guy dressed in leather with a leather mask whipping you as you shoot a CAT3 ILS. Humiliation? Did you have to stand on stage and pee in your pants or something? Unless telling your friends you make $15,000 a year is humiliating. Personally, I'm a very low spender and money isn't my motivation in life. Poverty? I can certainly shake hands with you on that. I think the big fat greedy ceo's need to take a pay cut (from 5 million a year to maybe 2 or 3). Maybe up the ticket prices by about 30 or 40 bucks each. I don't think anyone is in denial about anything here. What's there to deny? We all love to fly otherwise we wouldn't be on this forum. If the planes flying overhead gives you chills, I assume that's good, then apply to Netjets and experience a great quality of life where they pay you fairly well and you get a xmas card thanking you for your dedication to them. They might send you a watch like they did for my buddy.