Originally Posted by
Bassman1985
Yeah, the islands is the only place we do that. All the time in the CLE system it was clearance on the ground before departure, usually at the hold short line. Even in severe clear conditions. Looks like the IAD and ATL systems will largely revert to that.
I've done it at our non towered out stations in the ATL systems many a times. It's legal both per the FAR's and company op specs and much faster than waiting around on the phone, GCO, or through the crappy ground freqs for approach and center. Same thing up north in CLE heck most of the time that was the fastest and easiest way to make CRP up there.