Yes I just went through obedience training. They're saying recalls late 2016, maybe early 2017. My opinion it might happen sooner than that. The truth is they have no idea what the world's economy and the frax market is going to look like 3-4 years from now. They're basically giving us forecasts as they go because they have to, but they have no idea.

Also keep in mind we're in contract negotiations again, and depending on the outcome many people might decide to stay or leave.

We have a lot of young guys who still wanna fly "big planes". They'll go once hiring picks up at the majors. We have also have a bunch of old guys who refuse to retire.

lots of variable