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Old 03-12-2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
What is the purpose of all of this?

You bring your list to the table (scabs and all) with the order it is in and the people who are on it.

We bring our list to the table (scabs and all) with the order it is in and the people who are on it.

How the people got on the list (with the exception of the Saving Company Again Brotherhood Segment) is history and in the past.

Our respective seniority lists as of the merger are what they are and they are in the same order they will be in after SLI. No pilot on their respective certified seniority list can be moved ahead of (or below) another pilot on that same seniority list when the final ISL is released. In other words, the pilot immediately senior to me will always be found senior to me wherever he came from and when, and the pilot junior to me will always be junior to me whatever his circumstances. Now the ISL may show L-UAL pilots between the three of us in their UAL seniority order but our seniority order won't change.

Going back and trying to change agreements that were in place for hiring when the airlines were separate is ridiculous and a waste of energy. The order of our seniority lists is not going to change. Pass travel dates and seniority are two entirely different animals that have nothing to do with each other.

I laugh when I hear these arguments because it just proves that pilots fall into management's game of creating sub-groups and divisions to pit employees against each other. Has been shown to work wonders in getting what they want.
While the order of seniority does not change, the date of line seniority is another topic. Stating the obvious and redefining this thread serves no benefit. I'm hoping that while we may not agree with the isl, we have an understanding of what the arguments are and who is proposing them.
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