Originally Posted by
Sunvox
I didn't say anything about "CAL sucks". I said there is a cultural difference. To my knowledge I am the only person on this forum who has ever publicly apologized and reversed their opinion based on others arguments. If you think I am putting down CAL culture and that the culture I described is not accurate then explain to me how I am wrong, but so far all the evidence I have seen says CAL has a common culture of trying not to "rock the boat" in day to day operations.
How's this for a 4th anecdote demonstrating cultural differences.
Maintenance: "We won't be able to fix that right now."
L-CAL pilot: "Forget it then. We'll write it up on the way."
Spoken over the radio, and I was listening personally. Very, very few UAL pilots would ever say something like that on the radio. Is that a-typical for CAL? I don't know, but it is one more anecdote I see telling me there are cultural differences. Is the UAL culture better? I have no idea. You tell me, if you're so worried about whose better because I'm not. I'm worried about protecting my contract as it is and my own butt, and at the same time moving this whole integration process as quickly forward as possible so I can get on with my career.
Yes the cultures are vastly different. The problem becomes when one group perceives themselves to be better than the other. If you have no intimate knowledge of the other culture what gives you the right to claim yours is better?
The "other" forum had a thread about window washing on the 737. One UAL pilot observed a CAL pilot leaning out the window "washing" the windscreen. The entire thread turned into how EVERY CAL 737 pilot washes their own window!! Imagine the horror! Do you honestly think this happens? Yet the tread runs the standard course, CAL sucks they wash their own windows...
So now because of your post above EVERY CAL pilot carries open write ups. Not even close to true.
That's what's happened on this thread, what you thought was a simple observation is really NOT that simple.
As for your grievance comments, the great perceived injustice of the CAL system bid.
Have you contacted any of the 400+ UAL pilots working on the CAL side to find out if we're understaffed?
Called manpower planning at CAL?
Read the CAL contract?
The CAL side desperately NEEDS pilots, we have for years. Our reserve pilots work 90+ hours a month in the summer, rolled days off, max duty days, 7 days in a row etc... VJM bulletins ALL summer.
No one ever asked why we had the bid, just that the UAL pilots "deserve" those Captain seats, they belong to UAL. HUH? again does that make sense?
You either have an LEC rep or Grievance rep who likes to hear themselves talk, or someone is feeding you info they shouldn't be