At what point does DALPA figure into this equation johnso? You know, the DALPA that you so vigorously defended all through the run up to the TA vote? When you say "blaming ourselves", what do you mean by ourselves? As someone who repeatedly reminded us that WE are DALPA, what was their (our) role? Why were the road shows replete with SD's comments about hiring IF we voted in the TA? Is there any appreciable difference between our union leadership and management?

Carl