Originally Posted by
4A2B
If the Company "shorts" the 767 total pilots and the SCH ratio requires additional R24 lines be built that pay WB then what advantage (pay wise) would it be for them to have to build twice as many reserve lines than they would if they simply meet the manning ratio on the front end by having enough 767 pilots?
If the ration calls for say 50 crews and the Company decides to go with the 2 reserve line concept and only award 42, then they need to pay 8 extra pilots 100% WB for the extra reserve lines (8 *2) so it does not seem advantageous to short the 767 side of the equation. I realize they are not being paid "year round" at WB, but it does not take many extra WB pay lines to start to eat into and perceived gain by playing the short game in the 767 ?
I apologize if I'm not being clear on this and I'm not really sure I can make my point without a beer, a napkin and a hotel pen.
The ratio is bid pack credit hours vs pilots. Every pilot gets roughly the same number of credit hours per month (average). If you have 720 hours of flying in a 767 bid month, you'll need, on average, 10 crews. So, if you have 720 hours of 767 flying available and have 10 crews, you're ratio will pretty much match the 757. They will never have to pay the penalty R24 line.
If all but the CBA mandated 2 (count 'em - 2) reserve lines are moved to the 757 bid pack, it won't count against the 767 or their ratios. All the ratio crap is just eye-wash to placate the "they'll under man the 767" crowd. The company isn't going to pay guys to sit around doing nothing at WB pay, they'll pay people for flying it. And with this LOA, they'll be paying NB rates for WB reserve coverage.
I predict it will pass by 68%... I mean, who really cares if they use 757 guys to stand combined 75/76 reserve periods. After all, if they get assigned a 76 trip, they'll get 76 pay, right? And that's a good thing! Unless, of course, they decide that rather than actually increase the paycheck of the reserve guy who flies a 76 trip on reserve, they just use an additive to recalculate his leveling, plussing it up a little. After all, reserve pay is set, so they're actually getting a good deal, right? So they actually ARE getting paid for the 76 trip they flew, they just won't see it in their paycheck. Show me where this can't happen in this LOA. And remember, this is forever and ever because we never look back and spend capital revamping LOAs.
Now, about those imaginary gauge changes and substitutions for when they drop the 767 into Grand Forks. That's what we've got to worry about! Because there will be such commonality in the city pairs, that can happen all the time!
Or we just wait, let those who bid it fly it at WB pay (a given) and then work out the kinks in a calm, well thought out manner based on operating experience during the negotiation process. Nah, that doesn't make any sense at all and I'm being selfish!