Originally Posted by
av8rmike
No, I have a GREAT point on reserves.
Vacation would be paid at a narrow body rate since you wouldn't be operating a 767 trip. I can see the FCIF stating that now...
You really think that at arbitration with the company's own documents stating that 767 is a WB, we would lose a vacation not being paid at WB?
We want a separate bidpack for those select few that allows them to fly a NB at WB rates, but sluffs off that boring old reserve standing on those lowly NB guys. We'll be ok with 20% less people in the WB pay of a 767 because that's about how much reserve coverage is in an average bid pack, but that's not selfish.
It seems most here are missing the point. If we pass on this, there will be 767 flying and it will pay WB pay. If they try to get creative and pay a 767 vacation line at NB pay, that's what we pay dues for. I'd prefer to let the introduction happen, see how the flying is and then make an informed decision on what we really want in the CBA. How long would we have to put up with the company being naughty? Only until the next CBA is ratified, and that's not that long in the big scheme of things.
There is no question from this selfish, hard-nosed business person that all 767 reserve standing (except the 2 CBA-required lines) will be done at NB rates. This is a HUGE gain for the company and a HUGE loss for us. But you're more worried about the very occasional opportunity for gauge changes... Those would be a temporary problem fixable during contract negotiations. This LOA solidifies NB reserves for the 767 for good.
We'll see about the reserve issue. I'll let cooler heads prevail and get more information from the MEC and NC before making a conclusion.
For all the supposed problems you see, you really don't propose a more lucrative solution. Let the company fly it awhile so we can negotiate changes later? Really? I have no clue why you want to prevent a guarantee of 767 pay for those in a separate bidpack. This would maximize the amount of widebody pay.
They could still shift the way they schedule the 767 flying after we have been doing it awhile and negotiate on your time table. In fact you point out we would have to deal with the company cheating us for a time before you want to negotiate the 767 flying. Following your plan would cost many of us a lot money.
You give no good justification for waiting and have an unusual faith in arbitration to fix problems we could head off now.