Originally Posted by
buno
Can we look at an example with the bottom line:
Using the LOA, that same captain is assigned the same 42 hour trip; however, it now contains a 767 segment. No other trips are assigned. As such, one would think that the pay for the month should be $16128 - (42 x 224) + (42 x 260) = $17640; however, I have not seen it specified on how the pay for reserves will actually be paid over the month. IMHO, the company will be able to look at it and say that the assigned pilot has not flown trips that exceed $16128 (the 767 assignment would only accumulate $10920); therefore, the total gross pay for the month would remain $16128.
To the individuals that think this does not affect them, I offer a possible paradigm shift for your view. What bid packs are currently being bought up to 68 hours (excluding 727)? Why are those bid packs being bought up to 68 hours? Obviously, there is not enough flying to go around and distribute, i.e. too many wide bodies (CA and FO) for the amount of flying. Regardless of the reason (economy, remnants of age 65, etc...), the bottom line can be verbalized as "not enough wide body assignments to go around." And you have to know that as written, it appears that this LOA minimizes future wide body assignments / requirements for future crew upgrade availability. The bottom line is the total number of wide body positions required throughout the system that truly affects upward mobility for everyone - even that seat you may currently occupy.
Hadn't looked at it that way, but it's an EXCELLENT point. The point I tried to make earlier was the same, but not as well put. I thought they'd simply hide behind leveling to avoid a pay bump, but your explanation is actually much clearer and most likely how they can get away with it. Without specific examples such as the one you made in the LOA, it's fuzzy math. If they mean it one way, they should feel comfortable putting a clear example in the LOA. Especially since nothing remotely like this exists right now...
As to the loss of future WB seats when all the 767 reserves (except 2 required by the CBA) are manned by NB pilots, I'm still waiting for someone to demonstrate the error in this argument. I'm really surprised (disappointed, shocked, etc) that, in spite of this FACT, people out there are still considering voting for this. The only people who should be for this are senior WB guys interested in hoisting the ladder up after themselves.