Originally Posted by
Jim Lively
Just what we need. Waste another day off sitting in a classroom. We all know these are refresher courses. If you have to have someone spoon feed you what you should already know then you probably need to hire a flight instructor.
You should have this procedure down COLD. You shouldn't be in a cockpit if you can't remember how it's done.
Assuming for a moment that you are a CAL pilot then I would say you just added evidence to my general gut feeling because you are missing the point completely.
First, Sabre is a radical new way to flight plan and the company wanted to train us at home using online CBTs. Major corporations have tried CBT training and found the retention rate to be so low as to be counter productive. When the company wants to change how we do things the proper way to train pilots is in a classroom with real instructors and real testing. Not at home on my computer on my time. If you don't understand this issue then you are most definitely part of the problem and the culture of which I am afraid.
Second, my reference to engine out procedures has nothing to do with review, it's about how CAL does them right now. Currently CAL flys runway heading regardless of winds. They could have a 100 knot crosswind at 50 feet and you train runway heading. UAL trains fly the runway centerline. Also UAL has special engine failure procedures for those airports where FAA TERPS may not provide adequate safety margins. CAL does not have this either, and both of these items were up for the chopping block when the AQP syllabus was "handed down" from management but our training committee fought hard to keep the training standards we had at UAL rather than those at CAL. That is what I meant by engine out procedures as an issue.