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Old 03-19-2013 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Assuming for a moment that you are a CAL pilot then I would say you just added evidence to my general gut feeling because you are missing the point completely.

First, Sabre is a radical new way to flight plan and the company wanted to train us at home using online CBTs. Major corporations have tried CBT training and found the retention rate to be so low as to be counter productive. When the company wants to change how we do things the proper way to train pilots is in a classroom with real instructors and real testing. Not at home on my computer on my time. If you don't understand this issue then you are most definitely part of the problem and the culture of which I am afraid.

Second, my reference to engine out procedures has nothing to do with review, it's about how CAL does them right now. Currently CAL flys runway heading regardless of winds. They could have a 100 knot crosswind at 50 feet and you train runway heading. UAL trains fly the runway centerline. Also UAL has special engine failure procedures for those airports where FAA TERPS may not provide adequate safety margins. CAL does not have this either, and both of these items were up for the chopping block when the AQP syllabus was "handed down" from management but our training committee fought hard to keep the training standards we had at UAL rather than those at CAL. That is what I meant by engine out procedures as an issue.


You are absolutely incorrect on both fronts regarding engine-out procedures. CAL trains centerline tracking on engine-out when a special engine out procedure does not exist. We have plenty of special engine out procedures and are now dumbing them down to mirror s-UA "t" procedures.....who told you this crap? Do some investigating before you make yourself look so ignorant next time.


On the Sabre topic I will say this. It is a radical new way to flight plan if you come from the Unimatic world. If you take away the overflight fee logic used in the optimization, Phoenix(CAL) is very similar. The biggest change for the CAL pilots will be the self service performance planning since we are used to Accuload data being pushed to both our printers and the FMC currently. That's okay, we will learn to punch more buttons to get what we used to just uplink. We can handle it.


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