Originally Posted by
JobHopper
I was the plug Captain at NWA through 2008. There was one guy junior to me but he stayed out on mil leave. A few came in below me in 2009 before the pendulum started swinging the other way. I was never more than 5 or 6 from the bottom.
My seniority is in the 8300s. Nu, there is your benchmark.
Originally Posted by
johnso29
IDK. Do you have those numbers? And what if the CA was displaced, and decided he wanted to stay an FO? I flew with lots of DC9 CAs who preferred 747 FO instead. So if a guy takes a VD to a WB FO position and stays there, is it still not a new upgrade?
See above, at least for the north side. North side DOH is around 1998. South side would probably be a DOH of around mid-2000.
It's irrelevant if a guy got displaced from a CA seat, then decided to not re-upgrade, as someone around his immediate seniority probably would have taken that opportunity to return to the left seat or bid it for the first time.
Take a look at JobHopper's post. A quick look at the current category list shows the low # for a CA is mid 8000s. This "AE", which displaced almost as many as were awarded, the highest CA number was in the high 7000s or there abouts.
That is a long way to go before you get to JobHopper's 8300. Probably at least another 250-350 captain positions, at an absolute minimum. Same as a it's a long way to go to actually get "a raise" (never mind retirement or health care costs).
If we want to get on the web here and blovate about how wonderful things are, that's fine, but keep it in the proper context. If you want to consider it the "new normal" and use that as the new touchstone as to how things are, that's fine too, but at least have the personal integrity to say so up front.
Nu