I wasn't clear that I was saying that because I pay dues that I think the guy works for me, he doesn't, he volunteers for me, he's paid by someone else. He still volunteers. TT in DTW used to answer the phone all the time. I know he didn't get "paid" for the time that we "elected" him to "volunteer" for. Just don't think the term volunteer is that interchangeable when it suits people. I went too far trying to prove a point there with the taxes thing. Union volunteers also pay dues. I shouldn't let an angry deadzoner AF guy get my goat.