You guys can create whatever alternate universe you want to live in but the company and a large majority of the pilot group(s) aren't buying your nonsense. Pretending like the negotiations went a certain way is just foolhardy. The truth has been posted on this forum but you refuse to believe it. I understand the frustration and animosity but you are backing the wrong horse. The way both MECs acted is poor at best but one MEC is torpedoing any hope of meaningful progress while a very able executive management is taking full advantage.